A:12: Deliverance: Space Pirates and Avon Goes God Mode (Sort Of)

Garry: 00:00:17

Hello and welcome to Federation Strike, a journey through Blake's 7. My name's Garry.

Adam: 00:00:21

My name's Adam

Garry: 00:00:22

And welcome to episode 12.

Adam: 00:00:27

Yeah!

Garry: 00:00:37

Thank you very much for joining us for another episode of Federation Strike.

We are near the end of series A. We've.

This is the penultimate episode and thank you very much to those of you that have listened to our journey from the very beginning, from the way back. And also welcome aboard any new listeners. If this is your first time listening to the podcast, then welcome aboard.

It's great to be chatting all things Blake7 with my co host Adam as we go through everything to do with Blake's 7. This is a journey that's not just for series A. We're going to do a new season every time that. Fingers crossed.

Hopefully the new Blu ray sets come out in the future and we will do all of Blake's 7 and so far it's been amazing. It's been such a cool journey. The dynamic of the show for the new time listeners is my co host.

Adam is a longtime lifelong fan of Blake's 7 as a scene every episode, loads of times and has got loads of books and props and models and all the stuff he loves. Blake's 7 is his favorite British sci fi show, potentially his favorite show of all time.

Adam: 00:01:44

It is. It is my. I think it is, mate. It is my favorite show of all time.

Garry: 00:01:48

There you go. Of all time. I'm coming in as a freshman, fresh pair of eyes, a newbie. I, I watched one episode and a bit a couple of years ago and.

And so I'm not counting that. So I'm coming into the whole thing.

So certainly from sort of halfway through space fall onwards, everything is new and fresh for me and I'm loving it so far. So we've given some relatively good scores for the season up to last week. We felt last week was a little bit, a little bit sort of mid.

That was the episode Bounty. So if you listen to that one, thank you very much for giving that a listen and yeah, but dude, that was a five all round, that one.

Adam: 00:02:28

Yeah. I mean I think I was looking back at some of our scores of thinking, you know, have I been.

I think with some of them perhaps I maybe should have pushed them to an eight because I'm thinking it to me is sort of anything around a five or six is quite low. But we have scored a few episodes in this series, like 6.5 and I thought I may have been a bit harsh there. Maybe that should have been a seven.

But then because we've the highest, I think we've given is a 7.5. Is it? Is there any that have got an 8 this series yet?

Garry: 00:02:54

There is an 8, yeah. Seek lock 8, destroy. I gave it an 8.5. You gave that an 8?

Adam: 00:03:00

Yeah, yeah. Oh, so we have had some that have nipped up that way. Yeah, I just. Because that's the thing. I. I love series one. I think it's a great series.

So I was thinking of. Have I been a bit harsh on the scores? You know, it's very different when you're watching something to review it as well.

You know, if you're just watching it for pure enjoyment. I think, for example, let's take what was the episode where there was just like a murder mystery? I forget the name of it now.

Garry: 00:03:26

Oh, the. The. The who done it sort of thing. Mission to Destiny.

Adam: 00:03:33

Yeah, yeah. If you take an episode like that as an episode just to watch, I really enjoy it.

But if I'm watching it and critiquing it, I can sort of find things, you know, fault with it. And I think there will be a bit of that with like, seven where, you know, if I was rating it, how much I enjoy it, I'd probably give it an 8 or 9.

But if I'm critiquing it, I have to be sort of a bit more honest and, And. And try and find the good and the bad. And that's where the score sort of slightly goes up and down sometimes.

Garry: 00:04:02

Yeah, no, I read you on that. But. And yeah, I think we've been. We've been very honest.

Those of you that have listened to our other podcast, the Big Blue Box, which is a Doctor who podcast, over the years, you'll know that we don't give any fluff. We don't sort of beat around the bush or say things for the sake of it. Everything is completely honest and stuff.

And I think a lot of our longtime listeners on that podcast at least appreciate that stuff. So we're carrying that over to this podcast and any other future podcasts that we've got coming up.

Yeah, so actually that's a good time to mention it.

So the big blue box, which is our Doctor who podcast, which has been going on for years, this one Federation strike, and we've got a couple more in the. In the idea melting pot at the moment.

Adam: 00:04:48

Yes.

Garry: 00:04:48

All form part of our podcast network, which is called Cosmic Echoes, and there'll be some more information on that after series A has wrapped and stuff.

There'll be some information online about that and its own website and a way to listen to all of these podcasts in one feed and get all your good geekery stuff. So yeah, keep your eyes and your ears peeled for some more podcasting stuff coming. Coming up from us.

Not just Doctor who and Blake's 7, but some other bits and bobs as well.

Adam: 00:05:16

That's an old saying, isn't it? Keep and peeled. An old TV host or something used to that is these catchphrase, wasn't it? Was it a crime? Somebody did something about crime?

Keep them peeled.

Garry: 00:05:26

Oh, I don't know. I.

Adam: 00:05:27

Do you remember that potentially probably before your time. You do have a. You are a little bit younger than me.

Garry: 00:05:31

A smidge younger.

Adam: 00:05:33

Not much, but a little bit.

Garry: 00:05:34

Just a pinch. Yeah. Okay. Before we get on to our review of this week's episode, just a couple of things to go through. The first one is actually a bit of news.

This is great news. Yeah, a bit of Blake's 7 news.

So the again, if you're a fan of Doctor who, especially classic who, you would know of a company called Big Finish who do audio stories and audio dramas. Been going for years. Really high quality stuff. Very, very cool.

this podcast. This is episode: 1112

And we're recording this at the end of Feb, but we're a few weeks ahead of when they actually go out, so you've probably seen it already. But there's a story called Blake's 7 Avon. A terrible aspect has just landed from Big Finish. Now it's you can buy it for 20 quid download only.

And it was written by Paul Darrow know before he passed away a few years back. And it's essentially a prequel to to when we see Avon the first time in the show in space form.

And a little bit of blurb about this says what made Kurt Avon the man we all know hear his story from a time long before the Liberator as the young Avon grows up into a man with a driving purpose to avenge the death of his father in a world of cross and double cross.

It's a thrilling tale of family, loyalty, action and revenge during the early days of the Terran Federation that takes Avon through his early life and across the galaxy towards his ultimate destiny. And it was produced by John Ainsworth, it's narrated by Alistair Locke and is obviously written, as I said, by by Paul Darrow.

And then just one last little very cool thing Paul Darrow wrote.

This book is dedicated to Terry Nation, a great writer and to Janet, my wife, without whose help I could not have attempted to emulate him, and goes on to say that this is a Prequel to Blake's 7. It's a straightforward, fast moving story of the origins of Kur Avon.

It begins before Avon's birth and shows the family structure he was born into in a strange repressive culture projected for the future in the Blake's 7 universe. So, mate, this sounds really cool. What about you?

Adam: 00:07:53

Excuse me. It does sound very cool and I was just thinking what great timing as well, because I think I.

Now that I know that you're enjoying Blake's 7, I think when we get to the end of series one next week, I feel like you're going to need something. You're going to have to. You're going to need something to fill that void, that Blake's 7 void now.

And I think this sounds really good and I think this would be a good thing for you to. I mean, I haven't heard it yet, but it certainly sounds good. So it'd be something nice for us to dive into once we finish series one.

I mean, I love the character of Avon. You already have got to know and love the character of Avon. So to hear his origin story sounds really, really, really, really cool.

So, yeah, I'm definitely up for this. And the big finish, you know, they've done some Blake's 7 audios in the past and they were very good. Very, very good.

Some of them were made one when, you know, a lot of the cast were still alive, like Gareth Thomas and Paul Darrow. So a lot of them feature the original cast.

And as a fan, you know, when they first started releasing them, obviously you're like, you know, get this right, big finish, don't let us down. And I, I was very impressed with the, the ranges that they come out with back. Oh, it would have been a few years ago now.

So the Liberator Chronicles and I can't remember what the other Rangers.

Garry: 00:09:10

Classic Adventures.

Adam: 00:09:11

Classic Adventures. I see. Yeah, they were good. I mean, they were. They're all good. And you know, Michael Keaton did a couple Jan Chapel. So yeah, some good stuff there.

So it's nice that they're carrying on with the range and this sounds like a good one, mate. I'm definitely gonna dive into this once we get series one done.

Garry: 00:09:28

Indeedy. Yeah, agreed. Yeah. I'm gonna give this a listen and, and I've always. I've already got the, the Classic Adventures earmarked as well.

Adam: 00:09:36

Yeah, they're good. I remember really enjoying them actually.

They, they've tried their best to recreate the sound effects and I think in the couple of the early ones like the teleport bracelet sound, I think it is. And then not quite 100% right, but they do, they do. So you can tell that, you know that work has gone in.

The passion to get it right has gone into the. The audios and they do a really good job, honestly. They were fun. I remember.

Garry: 00:09:59

Yeah, that sounds good. Yeah, very cool. Nice one. Big finish. So that is the story Blake7 Avon a terrible aspect.

Available to download now and there'll be a link in the show notes if you just want to click that and go straight over and give that a purchase and a listen. Sounds rather good.

Adam: 00:10:17

I also think that's such a great title, isn't it? A terrible aspect. It just so to now get just picture Avon with that title. It's great.

Garry: 00:10:26

Yeah, that's very cool.

And before we kick off the review, lastly, just as I mentioned, if you're a newcomer to the podcast, very big welcome and handshakes all around to everybody and sort of the people that have listened from episode one. It's very cool. I've chatted to loads of you on bluesky and Twitter. Some great conversation there.

Make sure that you are all following the podcast on your podcast app of choice. Hit the follow subscribe button, whatever it is in your app. That way you won't miss a notification when new episodes go out every Wednesday.

And also we've got some cool bonus episodes coming up at the end of this series review as well. So you don't want to miss those. Some very cool things there.

We've got a big series, a wrap up episode where we're going to talk about all the events and our thoughts and feelings on series A and our impressions and that stuff. And then we've also got a couple of very cool interviews with some cool people who were involved in the Blu Ray box set production.

So they are very good, interesting, insightful listen. So make sure you're following for that. And as I said, we're on the socials too. Bluesky and Twitter links are in the show notes.

Or just do a search for Lake 7 podcast and come and connect with us over there and chat all things Blake7 Blake. Blake. So with that being said, what are we reviewing this week?

Adam: 00:11:44

Dude, Here we are then, mate. We're on the penultimate episode already, can you believe it? And it's called Deliverance.

Trailer: 00:11:51

Orac?

Trailer: 00:11:53

There have been rumors about it for years. A scientist called Ensor has been working on it. Despite considerable investigation, we've never been Able to locate him.

Trailer: 00:12:03

And you want me to find him for you?

Trailer: 00:12:07

It's no longer necessary. A little while ago, Ensor's son came to see me. His father was ill. He needed medical help and equipment.

While he was here, he showed me plans of his father's creation. Orac. It is a brilliant achievement. There is nothing else like it in the universe. And he wanted to sell it. Expensive. Travis. He wants 100 million.

Trailer: 00:12:34

100 million? Are you sure whatever it is is worth that much?

Trailer: 00:12:38

It's worth ten times that much. So I agreed to buy it.

Trailer: 00:12:44

Do you have the authority?

Trailer: 00:12:46

No. Now listen, Travis, I've told no one of this. Ensor and his father live alone on the planet Arista.

He made it clear that if there was any attempt to take Orak by force, he would destroy it.

Trailer: 00:12:59

Would he do that?

Trailer: 00:13:00

Oh yes. He thought it through very carefully. He wouldn't even reveal the location of the laboratory until I'd agreed to all his terms.

Trailer: 00:13:08

Which were?

Trailer: 00:13:11

A space surgeon was to go with him. I sent Maryatt.

Trailer: 00:13:17

How much did you tell him?

Trailer: 00:13:19

Only what his orders were.

Trailer: 00:13:23

He's a good man.

Adam: 00:13:26

Oh, Servalan. And you are a one.

Garry: 00:13:29

Yeah. Do we see a bit of emotion from Travis here? Come on to that in a second.

March: 1978

Excuse me.

And the synopsis is a spaceship crashes on the planet Cephalon and when the crew of the Liberator answer a distress call, they find their own lives endangered. Jenna is captured by primitive savages, the ship is hijacked and Blake is caught in a race against time. Sounds like high stakes.

Adam: 00:14:18

Yeah.

Garry: 00:14:19

In this one. So penultimate episode, it's clearly a two parter of sorts.

Adam: 00:14:25

Yeah.

Garry: 00:14:26

In some respects we've got one narrative that's reasonably on its own and isolated, which we'll get up to with Lord Avon and all that stuff, you know, that's on its own. But then we have this other narrative which is the Federation, AKA Serverland, is now aware of this thing called Orac.

And the Federation are obviously after it. They. It must be a big important thing because they're willing to pay big bucks for it at face value at least.

Obviously they're not going to pay for it, they're going to steal it and whatever. But you know, that's what's going down with, with that and obviously Blake is now aware of it because the crashed ship contains the.

The scientist's son. And they recover that and they find out what's going on. They don't know what Orac is either, but they know that the Federation's after it and.

And all that stuff. So, mate, your thoughts on this one out the gate.

Adam: 00:15:25

Well, mate, this is a Deliverance is a strange one, because if you'd have asked me last week what happens in Deliverance, you know, what's it about? I couldn't tell you. I was thinking, I can't remember anything about this episode, really can't remember much about it at all.

And yet when I watched it last night, I thought, this is. This is quite a good episode. I was actually really enjoying it. But I was thinking this, this.

It's just not an episode that sticks in my mind for some reason. But I think it's a good episode, mate. It. It definitely is there as a sort of a prelude to Orac. I mean, it's setting up that story.

So I guess, you know, threads are being sewn in this one, so that's its job really. But I think there's enough in there for it to stand on its own two feet as well. So it's.

It's a bit of an odd one this, mate, because I really enjoyed it. I just don't think it's a particularly memorable episode in its own way. Does that make sense?

A bit of a contradiction really, but I think there's so many good bits in it and so many interesting ideas being thrown in that. Yeah, I think if you take it as a. Not necessarily a two parter, but if you take it as a sort of prelude to Warak, I think it's a really good episode.

And there were so many moments where I had a big grin on my face because of the dialogue and, and some of the things the cast were doing. You know, I just thought the cast is so great in it, which they always are, but they got to really sort of have some fun moments in this.

All the Lord Avon stuff and Ganon Villa just chuckling and rolling their eyes and saying go limit would be Avon, wouldn't it? And all this sort of stuff. And, you know, there's just some lovely moments in it.

And I think the actual core storyline is just a really cool, great little story that Serverlanders plotted that if she manages to get rid of Ensor's son now that he. He's given her the locations, you know, it's a really good plan that she's come up with to steal Aura. You know, it's. She's really thought it through.

And then obviously bringing Travis back into the mix and. And. And also making Maryatt the guy who sort of saved him. I think he says, you know, there's some.

There's some really good little plot threads in this episode. So. Yeah, I don't know why it's one that if you. If you were to say to me, Deliverance.

It doesn't sort of spring to mind as a really great episode, but I really enjoyed it. Excuse me. I really did last night. I thought it's actually maybe not the strongest, but as a lead into Warwick, it definitely did its job, mate.

Because I tell you, I really, really wanted to watch the next episode. I held myself back. I mean, I have sick. I've seen or loads of times as an episode, but, you know, I mean, it's. It. Excuse me. It drew me in.

I'm sorry, I might have to cut off a sec. One sec.

Garry: 00:18:07

Yeah, Sorry.

Adam: 00:18:08

What the Is going on? My voice. They got a frog in my throat. I'm sorry.

Garry: 00:18:11

I'm the same dude.

Adam: 00:18:12

Yeah.

Garry: 00:18:12

Sorry.

Adam: 00:18:13

Go to a couple of edits.

Garry: 00:18:14

Right.

Adam: 00:18:14

Okay. I'll pick up from. Wanted to watch your wreck again.

Garry: 00:18:19

Okay.

Adam: 00:18:20

You know, so even I've seen it loads of times. I really just felt like this had sort of drew me in as an episode, that it made me want to go on to the next episode straight after it.

So I think it does its job. I think it may not be like the standest. The strongest sort of standalone episode, but I think it does its job and I enjoyed it.

Garry: 00:18:42

Huh. I see.

Adam: 00:18:44

What do you reckon? What did you think? Because this is one. This is one of those episodes I can't gauge, mate. There.

There are certain episodes where I think now that I know you're liking the show. Yeah, I think Garry will have liked that one or I. Or whatever, but this one, I'm not sure. So hit me with it. What did you think?

Garry: 00:18:59

You're not sure? So I'm actually in some two minds about this one.

Adam: 00:19:04

Oh, okay.

Garry: 00:19:05

Yeah, I think for the most part it was like all the episodes, even the ones that are deemed by fandom to be relatively not that good, I've still really enjoyed them. And this is no exception. I think it was.

It's still a good watch, but I just get the feeling that at this point, Terry Nation's run out of steam just a little bit.

Adam: 00:19:27

Mm. Okay.

Garry: 00:19:28

Yeah, just a smidge. Because, you know, we're getting to that point where we're starting to see some repetition across the last few episodes.

And what I mean by that is just a few things off top of my head. Like Terry Nation loves this whole radiation thing.

Adam: 00:19:47

Yes, he does.

Garry: 00:19:48

So that's back, you know, the land on the planet. But you've got to be careful because there's radiation.

Adam: 00:19:53

Yeah.

Garry: 00:19:54

And that kind of feeds into the storyline, doesn't it, with, with what's her name, Meergat, where her people have essentially been wiped out due to the radiation and they've set up this rocket that's got, you know, these.

That's going to go off and find a new planet and you know, start a new, a new civilization of their people on another planet that's, you know, hopefully safer, etc. So he loves that kind of thing. Right. So that you've seen that a few times before.

This whole thing around the Blake and the crew on the Liberator off to do something but they get waylaid by something else.

Adam: 00:20:37

Yep.

Garry: 00:20:38

So there's that sort of thing. We've seen that a few times already.

And then this whole thing around Blake and the crew being split up and one of them gets captured and you know, have to go and rescue them, etc. We've seen that a few times as well. Having said that, on the flip side, there is some repetition throughout the series which I've absolutely loved.

Like, you know, the, the friction between Avon and Blake and, and all that stuff which has been a thread that's run through the series. I've loved that. So in terms of that it's cool.

But in terms of narrative beats, I feel like we've been down this road a few times already with how this, the episode plays out and so yeah, that's my only thought on if you want to put a negative spin on it. It's hard to say negative because I still enjoyed it but you know, I just felt like he'd run out of steam by this point. I mean it's quite.

In relation to today's tv, of course. It's, it's, it's not that bad, you know, especially US TV series. A lot of those are like 20, 22 episodes a season. But so it's not like that.

It's not a big marathon.

But yeah, maybe this could have been, maybe this could have benefited from being a 10 episode series or something just to, to cut out some of the, a little bit of ploddiness here and there and things like that.

But I will say once again the, the performances are just fantastic and a couple of Little changes as well to the performances that we've seen in my opinion thus far, some of the key characters which we'll get on to.

But yeah, an enjoyable watch and I think one that is kind of strange in a way because like I said, it's obviously a two parter in the main narrative and does end on somewhat of a cliffhanger, doesn't it? Which is kind of cool. We've not really seen that.

Adam: 00:22:36

Yeah.

Garry: 00:22:37

Throughout the series. So that's cool. And, and it's nice to have that sort of ramp up. As you close the series out. You can tell that they're heading to something big.

I, I don't, I, I obviously have no clue what that is. You're probably like, oh my God, what do you want to tell him? But you know, I can't.

So I, I get the feeling that whatever they're going off now to go and find, obviously Blake's going to be there on, on the trail as well. Servalan Anne already knows what's going on to her and Travis. I assume rightly or wrongly that they're going to be in the next episode.

And yeah, shit's gonna go down in a, in a reasonably big way I feel. So I like that aspect. It's like a slow ramp up to the finale to close out series A, which is cool. But yeah, what about story wise dude?

Because we do have those two separate things going on. Let's talk about, let's talk about the Avon stuff first because that was quite enjoyable for me.

Adam: 00:23:33

Yeah.

Garry: 00:23:34

This whole thing around.

So they, the, the reason why they're teleported down to, to the planet is because they witnessed the, the ship that Ensor and, and Maria on, which we find out later why they're on the ship. But they witnessed that crash land into the planet. The planet Cephalon. Cool name for a planet.

Adam: 00:24:00

Yeah.

Garry: 00:24:01

And they teleport down to investigate to see what's going on because we.

Again, that's what I mentioned before about this kind of thing where Blake's on a mission but something interrupts and because of, you know, his big heart is like, you know, it's infectious. The rest of the crew, Blake doesn't even say it on this episode. I think someone else says, you know, we should go and help them.

Which you rarely heard that before. It's normally Blake's like, you know, we're gonna go and help because I've said so, you know, that kind of thing.

Adam: 00:24:30

Yeah.

Garry: 00:24:31

And so when they get teleported down, go south a little bit when they're down there and a really nice location stuff on that, but you can tell that it's not that warm. Whatever quarry they're filming, this is a.

Adam: 00:24:45

Bit where poor old Gan, he looks frozen, mate. His face was white and his lips were red. I thought, God, dear, it looked cold down there because at one point I thought, is the snow real?

Is that set dressing? Oh, no, that's real. They are freezing.

Garry: 00:25:00

Yeah, it's down in Surrey. So Batchworth Quarry. Yeah, down in Reigate. They obviously had a big bucket of snow the day before or a few days before because it isn't snowing.

But you can tell that they had a big.

Adam: 00:25:12

I mean, looks great on screen, doesn't it? It looks nice, but it's probably not great for the actors. Yeah.

Garry: 00:25:17

I was going to say back in the day in the uk, when we actually got. You could rely on snow. January and.

Yeah, December and January, you could say with a reasonable amount of confidence that you would get some snow before we wrecked the planet. So, yeah, it looks, it looks very cool.

I mean, we've said before, haven't we, that when they have gone on location and done that stuff and it's all done on film by the look of it, it looks very, very cool.

Adam: 00:25:44

It does look nice. Yeah.

Garry: 00:25:45

Yeah.

And one of the things that filmmakers used to be warned off back in the day, the 60s, 70s and early 80s, was that you should never film where there's snow unless your story actually, you know, absolutely requires it. If you've written a story that's about snow, like. Like, yeah, then filmmakers are always warned off about filming any with anything to do with snow.

The reason is because typically you can't control the environment as well as any other season. So snow melts, of course, and it melts very quickly.

So if you start a location shoot on a Monday, by Friday, there's no guarantee the snow is still going to be there. And also, it just changes color over time and you get all these different sort of the way the snow looks throughout one episode.

It's like, huh, they've only been on this planet for half an hour. But it looks like the snow's melted over three days gradually or whatever.

Adam: 00:26:42

It is not good for continuity.

Garry: 00:26:44

Exactly. Yeah. So, but this looks really good.

I love the fact that although it's filmed in a quarry, it's got this kind of otherworldly feel to it because you never associate a quarry with, you know, being covered in snow. It just looks very cool.

Adam: 00:26:59

Yeah.

Garry: 00:26:59

So this thread, dude, when they kick off this bit down at the planet. Did you like how that was going initially? And also Avon's very fetching lice silvery jacket.

Adam: 00:27:13

Yes. Yeah, I thought, I thought that was, that was nice, actually. I did, I did like all that stuff. I mean, I always love it when we go on location.

It's weird just even.

Just putting that, that sort of door into the side of the, you know, the cave, you know, the door they go through to where they meet me at, you know, it is very simple, just things like that. I don't know, I just, I just thought it all worked quite well. And I love all the stuff when we get inside with the Lord Avon.

And I think that leads to some really fun moments with the story and, and it's nice because you don't. You just expect that to be like a home.

You don't expect there to be a blooming spaceship on the other side of that door that Avon and the rest of them are going to launch, you know, to. To save the remaining race. So it's a really nice idea and it does take you in directions that I wasn't expecting.

Once again, though, when they teleport back, nobody notices for about 10 minutes that poor old Jenna isn't there. I mean, come on, you know. So, yeah, that was a.

Not predictable, but I guess, you know what you were saying about we are seeing a few similar threads happening here. Like the Liberator goes off course so they can't teleport back.

This is the thing with watching it sort of in transmission order, you know, because quite often as someone like myself, where I've watched it, I've watched this series so many times over the years, the whole of Blake's 7, I mean, not just series one, but I, I tend to pick, you know, like you cherry pick, you sort of go to the shelf, see what episode do I feel like watching tonight, and you'll pick a random one. So.

So even though I have watched Blake's 7 from the beginning before, over the last couple of years, I would have just picked those episodes I'm in the mood for. So I haven't really picked up too much on the repetition, if you like.

Whereas as we're now going back and watching it from the start together, I am like you thinking, yeah, for one of a better phrase, that Terry Nation perhaps is needing someone else to come in as a, you know, to help him write some of this now, which I know is already happening, but they're not being credited at the moment. But Chris Boucher go on to write his own episodes and they're normally pretty good. He's a good writer.

So, yeah, you do feel there's a bit of repetition. The radiation stuff for the Planet, like you said, it's been done loads by Terry Nation, but it didn't. It didn't really affect my enjoyment.

I think, again, watching this as a reviewer rather than a reviewer rather than a viewer, I was just at the thinking. I bet Garry's going to be saying, oh, the, you know, the Liberator's been taken over again and blah, blah, because you do.

You pick up on stuff like that. But it, it didn't take away from my enjoyment of it, to be honest.

And if you're talking about the other side of the episode, you know, the other side of the story. I love all that stuff with Servalan and her plan, but I don't know if I'm jumping forward. Do you want to discuss the second half in a minute or.

Garry: 00:29:53

Yeah, we'll do that in a minute. Yeah, stick with this, stick with. Now. Just because it's such an isolated little thing.

Adam: 00:29:59

Yeah, it's.

Garry: 00:30:01

It doesn't play into the overall story arc. So essentially what happens the. When they were rescued by. By. By me got.

She opens the door to them and she immediately thinks that they're the saviors. You know, she was. She was appointed to watch out for the.

The visitor from another world, essentially, who would enable this thing called Deliverance, hence the title of the story. And so that her people have been wiped out by this radiation, etc. And she targets Avon as the. As the. The new Lord, if you like.

Adam: 00:30:42

I think it's because of that silver jacket mate. I think, you know, he just stands.

Garry: 00:30:46

Out and it makes me wonder if they. If the, the costume department did that on purpose.

Adam: 00:30:51

I am now thinking that, yeah, based.

Garry: 00:30:53

On the story because typically they've all sort of gone with their own color coded, nice little fetching tracksuits and. But he. Yeah, he dons this very fetching white silvery jacket. So.

Yeah, and Villa winds him up a little bit about this, you know, why did she pick on you? And he's like, basically, you're loving this sort of thing. And he's like, apparently, yeah, I love that.

Adam: 00:31:18

He's like, you're enjoying this, aren't you? He's like, probably.

Garry: 00:31:20

Probably. Yeah.

Adam: 00:31:21

Yeah.

Garry: 00:31:22

So she basically assigns him as the. The bringer of. Of Hope, you know, and. And is gonna make sure that he's gonna bring about Deliverance and so on. So that's the. That's a thing.

And Avon, sorry, Villa and Gan, you know, they're fairly they're taking it fairly comically. They're not buying too much into it. Of course they are, because they know that Avon's not a God from somewhere or.

Or whatever, so they're taking it in their stride. And so as everything else is going on, they.

Because of Avon's kind of interest in the whole technical side of things, he starts to realize that, okay, this is a rocket ship that was planned to be launched at some point, but there's candles around, she's been there on her own, there's no proper light. And he's like, oh, this is not too bad. We can get this up and running. So his intrigue sort of takes over a little bit, but he also. Which.

One of the things I really did enjoy about Paul Darrow's performance is that he really does start to take this in his stride a little bit. Not that he buys into it, but he certainly starts to enjoy this bit of attention that's on him.

Adam: 00:32:39

Oh, yeah, you wouldn't.

Garry: 00:32:41

Exactly, yeah. So I think there's two reasons for that.

I think, first of all, I feel like he's like that because that's just his personality in general, because he's a bit of a genius with the whole, you know, computing and technical engineering side of things.

It's nice for somebody to, you know, recognize him as that kind of person, because, let's face it, he is one of the most important crew members on the Liberator. He is one of the top dudes. And. But he.

I get the feeling he never quite gets the recognition for that because of the relationship between him and Blake. Blake's not really forthcoming to lay a lot of praise on him, if you know what I mean. So that's that part.

And then secondly, I think it's just a nice. Kind of a nice departure from all that stuff that he has to put up with when he's on the Liberator. He's always being told what to do.

He's been ordered around. He seldom agrees with a lot of the decisions that Blake makes and feels like he makes unnecessary risks and puts the crew in danger, etc.

Now, down here, he feels like he's in charge a bit.

Adam: 00:33:55

Yeah, he's.

Garry: 00:33:56

He's managing the show a little bit. He's in control under this guise of, you know, Lord Avon. So it's got a humorous element to it, of course, and Villa very much plays into that.

But I think the way that Paul Darrow brings that across on screen is just brilliant. This whole kind of, you know, doesn't Break us into a big smile. Too often he's got a bit of pride now. Somebody recognizes that falsely he's a God.

But, you know, he makes it happen. At the end of the day, the ship takes off and, you know, mission accomplished.

Adam: 00:34:31

So, yeah, I mean, it's a nice story arc for Eivon, isn't it? Because, you know, Blake sort of almost saying to him at the beginning, before they teleport down, you know, don't mess this up.

It's almost like he's giving Avon a chance to be the leader. And Avon's sort of thinking, I'll show you. And then he goes and loses Jenna. But then he redeems himself by, you know, by getting the ship launched.

And, you know, there's that lovely bit at the end of the episode where Villa's saying, oh, it's a shame you won't. You know, it's going to take 5 million years to get there, so they won't remember you. You. You'll be a God in your own light.

You won't be a God in your own lifetime sort of thing. And then that great line where Blake says, how does it feel to be a God? And Avon says, don't. You know.

But actually it plays into the whole kind of thing of like, Avon gets a taste of what Blake normally does. Avon actually does save, you know, does get the ship going and save the day, if you like, for one of a better phrase.

So he does get to be a bit of a Blake type character for once.

And he probably feels quite good inside that he did that, you know, that he's actually managed to save all those people that Blake would normally be doing. So he has probably got a bit of pride within himself.

But I just love the way they come straight back down to earth in that last scene with Blake, as if, like, you know, you can't enjoy it too much, can't revel in being a lord for too long before he's back down to being on the Liberator flight day. So it's. It's a nice story arc for everyone, I think, this one.

It's great that he gets to go down to the planet instead of Blake and it gets to sort of shine a bit. Well, he shines in every episode, but he gets some really good stuff in this one, I think.

Garry: 00:36:08

Yeah, yeah, I agree.

And I do want to pick up on this relationship progression between him and Blake because I mentioned earlier that there's been a bit of a change, a notable change in. In him and Blake in this episode. And it was so good to see these two on screen do this.

And what I mean by that is, up until now, every single episode where these two have had a little word to say to each other or an exchange of, of smiles that are a bit sarcastic or whatever, it's always been the case that Blake has made a decision, Avon has disagreed with it, but he's gone along with it, much to his better judgment anyway. And now we've got to this point where. Because you know what, the.

The times in the past where Avon has asked other crew members, why do you follow Blake? Yeah, why do you do this? And he's even been quite stern with Blake a couple of times where he's like, you know, this.

He said to him, you know, you've put the crew in danger, this is silly decision, etc. But for one reason or another, he's always come back round because he's kind of seen the bigger picture a little bit.

And that was really evident in the, in the story. Breakdown.

Breakdown, yeah, where he, he gets asked to stay on the space state, the research station, and he agrees to begin with, but then he starts to have that realization that actually, you know, the.

Adam: 00:37:49

He's not so bad off with Blake, I think, isn't it? It's like he realizes the grass isn't greener, always greener on the other side.

Garry: 00:37:56

Yeah, exactly that, mate. And he realizes that the Federation will always find him whether he's with Blake or not. So he might say that kind of thing.

And Blake has always been like the moral compass, I guess, where he's out to, because he very much does see the bigger picture. So he's out for good.

You know, he wants to, you know, we've been down this road before talking about this, obviously, but he wants to take down the Federation and cause them problems and etc. So. But Avon's not really been on board in this episode, mate. I found a.

I found Avon's character to soften a little bit, which is the first change I've noticed, where when they're down on the. On the surface and he's dealing with the whole Lord Avon thing, and he's actually got loads of patience for me gats. He's got.

He's happy to hear her out. He's happy to.

Even though they know that Jenna's still captive and they need to go and find Jenna, of course he's happy to listen to what she's got to say, embrace all of that stuff, take it all in.

Blake wouldn't have as much patience I don't feel, I feel like Blake would have a little smile on his face, listen to what's going on, but then would sort of cut this all short and be like, you know, great that you've got this whole thing going on. Our friend's captive, we need to go by. Yeah, maybe, you know, whereas I feel like Avon's quite patient and softened a lot. So that's the first thing.

And then the other change is I feel like Blake's got a real. I don't know if it was written this way, but Gareth Thomas is really cutting in this episode.

He's got, he's got to a point now, I think, where I don't want to say overconfidence or anything, but this is the episode for me, at least I could be wrong. But I think this is the episode where he says, my crew. Oh, instead of the crew, you know, the crew of the Liberator. The crew, whatever.

He says, you know, this is my crew. And there's a couple of exchanges because when he's being captive. So when he's being held at gunpoint by Ensor, him and Callie.

Yeah, he's not really doing much other than got this kind of horrible stare on his face. And he's quite short tempered and cutting. But some of the exchanges between him and Avon are very telling.

So there's a bit where they come back aboard the Liberator and then as you said, poor Jenna. It takes them a little while to realize that someone's left behind. And this goes back to what I was saying about Avon softening a little bit.

I think previously Avon would have been like, you know, should we go back after her?

Adam: 00:40:46

Yeah.

Garry: 00:40:46

But in this episode, without hesitation, immediately when he realizes that she's not there, he's like, we'll go back down and get her.

Adam: 00:40:55

But do you think that's because it's kind of, as I said, Avon's been given the chance to prove himself and it's kind of down to him that she's not come back. You know, it's like Blake has said, you know, this don't mess this up sort of thing at the start.

And he's kind of messed it up because although it's not his fault, they don't know that, you know, he's left Jenna down there. So it's kind of, go on, this is your mission. Go down and sort out the mess. So he's kind of got to, I mean.

Garry: 00:41:20

Yeah. To prove it. Yeah, I did consider that.

But then I thought, which is the whole point I'm making about his character progression is that in all the previous episodes, even though. Yes, that's the case, he's been kind of tasked with, you know, leading this bit. I think his. In his mind, the.

The rational part of his head would always come out and say, yeah, but, you know, whatever.

And let's face it, even though he's been tasked with sorting this side of the story out, all of these members of the crew are fully capable of taking care of themselves.

Adam: 00:42:00

True.

Garry: 00:42:00

He's not their babysitter. He's not.

Adam: 00:42:02

That's right.

Garry: 00:42:02

Do you know what I mean?

So, yeah, I feel like that sort of lent into a little bit of why I felt his character had softened a little bit, because he doesn't even consider the options. He doesn't think like it. Could we sacrifice Jenna and just go on, could we leave her behind, maybe pick her up later? Could we do this, whatever?

Just without hesitation, like Blake's done in a few episodes about helping people. He's just, yeah, we'll go and get her.

And then what I mentioned about Blake with his character is that he's got this real, like, the way he stares at Avon. He's like, well, you better.

Adam: 00:42:41

Yeah.

Garry: 00:42:41

And Avon just. No more words needed. Avon just looks at him just for a second, turns around and walks over to teleport area.

And you just think, crikey, like, you could cut the tension with a knife at that point.

Adam: 00:42:53

So do you think the Avon of old would have turned around and said, well, why don't you go down if you're that worried, you mean?

Garry: 00:42:58

Exactly.

Adam: 00:42:58

You think he softened a little bit? Okay.

Garry: 00:43:00

Yeah. Would have thought that Avon would have had some comeback of sorts.

Adam: 00:43:04

And, well, he could have done. He could have said, she wasn't with me. Blame Gan. Send Dan Ganny. I wasn't with her. He could have done, couldn't he? Yeah, you're right. Yeah.

Garry: 00:43:12

So. But on the flip side, I think Blake's gone from being a slightly softer character to now, in this episode, being really cutting.

And, you know, because he's. He's.

Although he's assumed the role of captain, I guess, for the Liberator and the crew, I don't think he's ever once sort of been openly, you know, has never openly said, you know, I'm your captain, but he's kind of just assumed that because he's doing what he needs to do and the crew have decided to follow him. It's always been that, like, we're here because we want to follow you sort of thing. And help you out.

It's never been a case of I've hired all of you and now you're employed to me kind of thing. But I do get the feeling that that's his thought process in this episode. And when he. When Ensor's, you know, got them captive and. And so on.

It's not the Blake that I've seen in the past, in the. In the previous episodes of the series. He's not got that.

Let's go back an episode, right, to when we were looking at Bounty, when he goes into Sarkoff's office and Tice turns up. She's holding him at gunpoint. He's cute, cool as a cucumber. Yeah, no problem.

You know, he's happy just to talk it out, you know, this could have been exactly the same way. There's no reason at all why he couldn't have spoken to Ensor. Seen, you know, got his point of view across, assured him that they're there to help.

You know, this is not a conflict that they want to be drawn into. He could have easily have talked him around, done his usual little smile, you know, all the rest of it.

But he doesn't do that in this one for some reason. It's just very standoffish, very short and cutting. So in a nutshell, I'm aware I'm waffling a little bit.

In a nutshell, I've seen a real reverse of roles almost between Avon and Blake in this one.

Adam: 00:45:15

Yeah, I mean, I'll take your point, mate. It's not something I sort of consciously picked up on, but, I mean, now you talk through it, I.

I do see what you mean, and I also feel like I do, you know, that the scene you're talking about where Ensor's got the gun, how to Cali's head on the floor, a Blake is like, really serious in that particular moment. And I love that scene, actually, when he says it will take one moment or something or one second, doesn't he? And I'll. I'll take you.

And I love that because it brings a bit attention to it, because that's what I was going to say to you earlier about the repetition. Even though, once again, someone has sort of taken the Liberator off course.

I actually really like that particular part of the story because they're not doing it because they're evil or bad or want to steal the ship or anything. They're doing it because they. They know they've got to get these drugs to save his dad. And he even says I don't want to hurt you.

I don't want to do this. But if I don't get these drugs to him, he's going to die. So there's a motive that's not, you know, malicious or evil behind what's going on.

It's just a guy who's desperate and he knows the only way he can do it is to. Is to sort of take the Liberator and get over to his dad. Even though Blake does try to explain to him that, you know, it's a far shit, we can do it.

But I do like that particular scene and I like the idea of this gun, you know, when he clicks, pulls the thing back on the gun to say, if I fall asleep, this is going to go off on its own again. It adds another layer of tension halfway through that sort of mid plot, if you like.

So I like all that stuff that's going on and, and I do love the bit where Gareth delivers those lines about, you know, as soon as you, you know, you're not gonna. You can't last. As soon as you go, I'm gonna take you down. And, you know, and I love all that stuff. I think he's brilliant in those scenes.

But yeah, maybe there is a slight shift, but then that's good because it shows, you know, let's not forget Blake was, you know, looked up to and he managed to become quite a name before the Federation, you know, wiped his mind. So he needed some steel grit to do that. And maybe we're seeing him getting back to his old self.

Garry: 00:47:20

Yes. Yeah. Yeah, you make a good point actually, mate. It's. It feels like Blake before the Way Back.

And that's strange to say because we, we don't see Blake on screen before that episode, but we mentioned it early on in the series that some of the things that Blake is, the decisions that he's making at least once they get hold of the Liberator is we were like, okay, this is probably what Blake was like before his mind was wiped and he was under the suppressants and everything like that.

Adam: 00:47:54

Yeah.

Garry: 00:47:55

So we're getting back to, you know, he's. He's basically back on course.

This is like the old Blake that we probably would have seen if there was A prequel to Blake's 7 leading up to the Way Back episode.

Adam: 00:48:07

Yeah, possibly. Yeah.

Garry: 00:48:08

Yeah.

Adam: 00:48:09

Sorry, just go back to Cephalon for a sec, mate. What did you make of the Cavemen? Because they're.

We don't really know much about them, but did they, did they add a bit attention to the episode or did you find them throwing polystyrene rocks a little bit cringe? I don't know. There is a bit of a good ruckus. There is a bit of a good scrap at one point in the episode with them.

There is a good bit actually, when Avon rescues Jenna and I don't know, it's just a simple idea to hit them through the tent at the. On their back. So there is some good stuff with the cavemen, whatever they're supposed to be, that the inhabitants of the planet.

But they're a little bit like, you know.

Garry: 00:48:50

Yeah, I found them a bit throwaway.

Adam: 00:48:52

Yeah, they're probably the weakest part of the episode. Yeah.

Garry: 00:48:55

Yeah. It's not to say that it's not a cool idea. It's just we don't really see that much of them either because when they. We don't even see them.

Yeah, we don't even see them properly capture Jenna, do we? No, you know, it's just we fast forward in time almost and we just see her tied up in one of the tents and.

Yeah, it's just a lot of sort of running around and stuff. Not to say that we have to see them.

You know, I think that's one of the things that sort of plays into this kind of show in general is that we don't need everything spoon fed. We don't need a big backstory about these people. We don't need all the exposition as such. You know, they're just natives of Cephalon.

Adam: 00:49:38

Yeah.

Garry: 00:49:39

I think it's just. I think it's just a case of. Yeah, you can see the purpose that they've served. And that's where it stops.

Adam: 00:49:51

Did you laugh at the bit where Villa gets. Once again, Villa blows it. I mean, they're having quite a good.

You know, they've managed to rescue Jenna and then Villa gets captured and almost like starts screaming. Doesn't. He's always like, get it off me. And completely blows it for all of them.

So they end up getting into a big old fight instead of being able to just sneak away. So once again, it is a quite a fun moment, isn't it? You think, oh, Villa, he doesn't want to go down there either.

He's like, I'll stay up here, shall I?

Garry: 00:50:21

Old Phyllis. Yeah. Michael Keating was cool.

Adam: 00:50:23

I love him.

Garry: 00:50:23

Yeah, he's kind of settled very nicely into this flow, hasn't he?

Adam: 00:50:27

Yeah.

Garry: 00:50:28

With each performance where it's a mix of him getting his hands dirty when he needs to and stepping up when he Needs to. The rest of the time, he's just having a laugh with Avon. Avon's expense and. And winding him up a little bit.

There's some great little interactions between him and Avon.

Adam: 00:50:46

Yeah, there is.

Garry: 00:50:47

He's so confused, isn't he? When they're. When they're in the bunker and they're at the. All the computer stuff and they can see the rocket. Even then he's like.

He doesn't say this word for word, but you can see that he's coming across like, I'm confused, mate. Like, why. Why are you the one who's going to be God in this situation? All that. He's got that sort of approach to this whole thing and.

And Avon, he's like, yeah, I think Avon's got. He's almost got that mix of. He almost wants to say, like, yeah, you're right, this is just a load.

Adam: 00:51:22

Yeah, yeah.

Garry: 00:51:23

You know, it's all. I completely agree. It's weird.

Adam: 00:51:25

I think if Villa and Gan weren't there, he probably would have done. He'd have said, oh, yes, I'm here at last. You know, he would have lapped it up, I think.

Garry: 00:51:33

Yes. Yeah, I get that feeling that. Yeah, he's got that. Yeah, you're right. But hold on, I'm getting a nice bit of attention here. It's.

It's not all bad sort of thing. And he runs with it a little bit, so. But Michael Keating. Yeah, just does that so wonderfully. That whole confused look, some comical stuff and.

And that Sophie's a. At times. He's a strange character, isn't he? Because he's almost the last sort of type of person that Blake would want as one of the crew members.

Adam: 00:52:05

Yeah.

Garry: 00:52:06

Because although he has stepped up, like I said a couple of times, and I wouldn't say saved the day, but he's definitely contributed to. To getting them out of some scrapes. He is a big liability.

Adam: 00:52:18

He is. And he doesn't try hard. He doesn't try very hard to get the door open. When Blake, when Avon says get the door open, Villa, he's like, I can't do it.

I think blooming that you haven't even tried yet. And then, thankfully for them, Meerga opens the door. But, yeah, I think he does crack under the pressure in that particular scene, doesn't he?

There's a. It's a. There's an unintentionally funny line from Gan, or at least I found it funny when he says, don't forget, I've got the limiter.

I Thought, oh, is that almost sounded like that was meant for the audience rather than. It just seems just a strange thing to shout out in the middle of.

Well, not a strange thing because he isn't gonna have a fight, but it's almost just reminded the audience, oh, yes, don't forget, now I've got a limiter in. I think I'm right in saying I saw this on Wikipedia or one of the. It's the last time it's mentioned. I think the limiter.

I think it kind of gets very quietly dropped after this. I think, you know, it may come into play again. But I have a feeling. I read on. On Wiki. It's the last time we hear him mention the limiter.

So I don't know if they just decided to quietly write that out of the storyline, but what do you think of Meergat, by the way, while we're still on the planet Cephalon, before we get to Servalan and Travis, what did you think to the whole Megat and all that stuff?

Garry: 00:53:33

Yeah, she's. She's very sweet, isn't she?

Adam: 00:53:35

Yeah.

Garry: 00:53:36

And me again, played by Suzanne Farmer. Very, very sweet. Very. Almost to the point where I thought she was too sweet. I thought, is she going to pull something on these guys In a moment.

Adam: 00:53:48

All right. Okay.

Garry: 00:53:49

Yeah, I thought she's. She's too nice and too sweet. Is she gonna.

Adam: 00:53:53

Too good to be true?

Garry: 00:53:54

Snap her fingers and a load of Federation guards are going to come wandering out from somewhere or natives are going to come and capture again or something like that. But, you know, she just turned out to be a very sweet, very nice, trusting character. And yeah, she was very cool.

Adam: 00:54:09

And I wonder what happens to it. Actually, now I think about, they. They just leave it down there. Like the ship's gone.

Garry: 00:54:14

Yeah, just leave her.

Adam: 00:54:15

Yeah, just leave. It's not the nicest place. I suppose she's got a. It's got nice. Some nice candles down there. But yeah.

Just suddenly realize that we don't really see her after the ship launches, do we? We're back on the Liberator. I think they dropped her off somewhere.

Garry: 00:54:29

But no, because the last time we saw her, she gave. She gave Avon Villa and Gan directions to the. The scavengers camp to go and rescue Jenna. So they're like, oh, thanks for that.

And her and Avon have a nice little goodbye and stuff like that. So once they rescue Jenna after that little scrap, that's when Blake's coming back into sort of Cephalon orbit and can beam them back up.

Beam Them up. It's very Star Trek, isn't it? Teleport them back up. Yeah. So, yeah, that's the last time that we saw her. They just, you know, I would have.

Adam: 00:55:03

Actually liked to have seen a little scene where she has to say goodbye to Avon because she's got to join the rest of them on the ship or something. I don't know. We like to have seen her get a bit of a send off, really, because she's a nice character. I don't know.

Just the thought of them just leaving her there on her own. But I don't know. Anyway, Terry Nation obviously wasn't too worried about it.

Garry: 00:55:22

Yeah, actually, no, I got that wrong. Sorry. They do. So she gives them directions to go to the camp, they rescue Jenna.

Adam: 00:55:28

Yeah.

Garry: 00:55:29

And then they get back to the bunker and that's when they launch the rocket.

Adam: 00:55:35

Yeah. So you could have had a nice touch. And scene of I must go now, Lord, I need to join my people or something, you know, just to give her a send off.

But yeah, she just kind of gets. Just doesn't get any more scenes. She's just gone. Yeah, yeah, thanks a lot. Goodbye.

Garry: 00:55:49

And then when they do beam. Oh, gossip. Beam me up, beam me up.

Adam: 00:55:56

Blake doesn't quite have the same ring.

Garry: 00:55:59

When they do teleport back onto the Liberator, they have that. Another like Blake just. This is the other thing I was gonna say as well. Blake sees this as a little laugh, just a little.

A little dig at Avon, just a friendly bit of bance.

But to me, I felt like he doesn't understand what Avon's gone through in this episode because Avon essentially has potentially given a springboard for the people of Cephalon to go to a new planet because the race banks that are on board the rocket ship hopefully gonna now find life on a new planet. So he's enabled that. Yeah, he's given somebody hope, which is Meergat.

He's given her hope because now her people have, you know, hopefully gone off to do that. He's rescued Jenna and is now back on the ship. So he's accomplished a lot in this episode and he's all good. Then we get.

When they get teleported back and they sort of settle back in Avon, Blake says something like, what's it feel like to be a God or something?

Adam: 00:57:15

Yeah.

Garry: 00:57:16

Blake's like, you know, it's. I wouldn't like to do it all the time or something like that. I can't remember what the line is. What's the line for that?

Adam: 00:57:25

Blake says Him. How, how did it feel being a God? And Avon says, don't you know?

Garry: 00:57:29

Oh, don't you know that's it. And he's like, yeah. And then Blake says he's got like a little witty comeback.

Adam: 00:57:36

Oh, I didn't rather come back down.

Garry: 00:57:38

Yeah. And he's got a little wit. And that's the point where I thought you can't just let Avon have his time in the sun. You can't.

You know, it's that thing where it, that's what I'm going back to what I was saying earlier. It's, it's the. Blake is a little bit. Yeah. So Callie says, did you really think you were a God? And Avon says yes for a while.

And Blake says, how did it feel? And Avon says, don't you know? And Blake says, yes, I don't like the responsibility either.

Adam: 00:58:11

That's it. Yes.

Garry: 00:58:13

Yeah. And so Avon doesn't even say anything. He just gives him this look like bastard.

Adam: 00:58:21

Yeah, he has to have the last word.

Garry: 00:58:23

That's all is. Yeah. And then he walks off. And I thought to myself, do you know what? On the surface that's just Blake having a bit of pants.

You know, he's got that because the rest of the crew give him a nice little smile as well. Especially Jenna. She looks over, nice little grin, a little chuckle and it's Blake not really meaning anything by it.

It's just a little dig at Avon like they've done all the time up to now. But there was a little part of me that thought, you know what, that was a bit cutting as well.

Adam: 00:58:51

Yeah.

Garry: 00:58:52

Because I felt for Avon at that point because he connected with somebody even though it was a false thing, you know, he connected with somebody and has accomplished a lot. And now to cap it all off, Blake's like, yep, just remember who's the boss.

Adam: 00:59:08

I feel it is that. I feel it's just making sure Avon still knows that he Blake's number one.

You know, like you said, a sort of in a friendly way, it's kind of passive aggressive way of just saying I'm still, like you said, this is still my crew. I don't know. Just doesn't want Avon to get too big headed about it, I guess.

Garry: 00:59:26

Yes.

Adam: 00:59:26

But you're right, Avon doesn't get to enjoy it much. In his face when he walks off. Says it all. It's great, isn't it? Oh, Paul Darrow can just convey that through a look.

Garry: 00:59:36

Yeah, exactly. It's so good. Let's fast forward or rewind. Should I say to kind of a little bit of exposition for whatever Orak is.

Adam: 00:59:46

Yeah.

Garry: 00:59:47

So at some point in the episode we cut to Travis and Serverland. Those two are solid gold on screen, bud.

Adam: 00:59:57

Yeah, they are.

Garry: 00:59:58

Yep. Travis is a bit. He's a little bit down and out, isn't he? At this point in the few episodes that we've seen him thus far. Very, very confident. Very.

You know, when we first see him, just marches into Servalanand's office, you know, and it's like some guards told me to wait outside.

Adam: 01:00:22

They must be mistaken.

Garry: 01:00:23

Must be mistaken.

Adam: 01:00:24

Yeah.

Garry: 01:00:25

Just full of it. And that's part of the reason why Serverland has, has hired him because of his confidence and you know, getting stuff done, getting results.

Fast forward to now and he's had his.

You remember at the end of the episode Project Avalon where we had that gray ending where Blake essentially just humiliates him in front of Serverland.

Adam: 01:00:52

Yeah.

Garry: 01:00:52

Before he teleports off.

So I think Serverland did say, look, your, your lack of results and the way that you've messed things up a little bit have made waves in the Federation. So, you know, I can't publicly back you, but you've Percy got my thing.

But when that all goes down, she basically says, look, there's going to be an inquiry about this one. So now we find out that he's been suspended since we last saw him and he doesn't have his command anymore. And yeah, he's just.

His confidence has been knocked. You can see that in the way that, that Steven Greif pronouncing that correctly.

Thank you very much, whoever on Blue sky, correcting me on that Steven Greif has, has now got the. Absolutely got the memo, you know, from, from Michael E.

Bryant, the director who's basically said, look, at this point in the story, Travis is, has been beaten up by the Federation. He's not produced the results he was hired to do. He's also messed up and cost a lot of money along the way. So he's been, he's been done for.

Serverland knows this.

And what's great and what I love, what I mean about Solid Gold between these two is that it's, you know, like we were saying with, with Blake and Avon, where at the end where they had that little exchange and it was Blake's way of subtly saying I'm the boss kind of thing.

Adam: 01:02:15

Yeah.

Garry: 01:02:15

You get that from Servalanan as well.

Adam: 01:02:17

Absolutely. I love it. She just, just ignores him. That she at the desk, taps away. It's. It's Just so funny to watch.

Garry: 01:02:24

It's great. So she has concocted this big plan without Travis, and when he's summoned, he. He thinks that this is just another one of those, oh, cool, I'm.

I'm back in the game. Blake's still out there. You're gonna put me back on the, on the trail and all the rest of it.

Because we know obviously that he's got this fascination with having to take Blake down. It's an obsession of his.

Adam: 01:02:54

Yeah.

Garry: 01:02:54

And Servalanand's like, nope, don't worry about that. I've got this plan sorted out. She knows what all wreck is. So the Ensor, Ensor's son. You and I spoke about this off. Offline, didn't we?

The scientist Ensor and his son being called Ensor.

Adam: 01:03:15

Yeah.

Garry: 01:03:16

So Ensor's Ensor has basically gone to the Federation and said, this thing that my dad's built, you're gonna want this. It's up for sale, what you're saying. So when he.

When Serverland finds out what it is, and I'm guessing we will find out as viewers next episode, what Orac is. Apparently it's this big thing that's, you know, the most. I think she describes it as the.

The most, you know, incredible thing that's ever been invented or something.

Adam: 01:03:44

Yeah. Because they say they're gonna pay 100 million credits for it. And I think she says it's worth 10 times that.

Garry: 01:03:50

That's right.

Adam: 01:03:50

It must be something good.

Garry: 01:03:52

Exactly that. Yeah. So there must be something. And Travis is like, huh, that's weird.

How can, how can even the Federation pony up that much, that much money and that many credits? And she's like, don't worry. So she's engineered for Ensor's craft to be, you know, to self destruct, essentially, so they can go to.

They can go to the planet and steal it. What planets? Aristo.

Adam: 01:04:19

Aristo, yeah.

Garry: 01:04:20

Yes. So they're gonna get. So she knows the location of laboratory where Orak is, because when she agreed to his demands, he told her all that information.

She's now engineered the ship to crash land.

And it's only because that Blake's crew witnessed that and go and rescue him that they also know about not what Orak is, but there's this thing called Orack. And so Travis is not on the case anymore to take down Blake Servalan and is now getting him to go and retrieve or to go and get whatever Orac is.

And she doesn't know.

Adam: 01:04:55

She doesn't know that Blake knows that's the thing. She doesn't know that Blake's head in there as well.

Garry: 01:04:59

Exactly. So, yeah, that's what I was saying earlier about this nice ramp up into the finale. Yeah, we get this nice kind of who's going to get there first?

What is Orack? The little sort of cliffhanger. So it's really cool. And the way that those two go through that go through the motions is so good on screen.

I love the little shift with Steven Grice performance as being a little bit sheepish now.

Adam: 01:05:21

Yeah.

Garry: 01:05:22

Not quite as confident as he was before, but also loving Jacqueline Pierce's still very confident kind of Bond villain thing that she's got going on. So, mate, that scene, like we first saw them together in. What was it? Destroy. Just brilliant.

Adam: 01:05:44

Yeah, they are gold together, mate. You're absolutely right. And the thing is, it is a scene of exposition. You know, it's quite a long scene, but I.

I like you said, I don't find it boring. If anything, I like you. I love it because of the performance between those two.

And it's actually quite interesting hearing her plan, because it's a great plan, you know, and she is reveling in telling Travis about this plan, isn't she? She's really proud of it and rightly so. It's. It's an awesome idea. You know, she saw everything through that Maryatt.

She said, oh, don't worry, he'll be held hostage until you get the money.

You know, she thought of everything, you know, and then she just goes and blows them up so that she knows that Ensor won't get his drugs and they'll be dead and they'll just go and pick Orac up. It's a great plan. And I, like you picked up an earlier.

I also like the fact that Travis is, for once, I think it's the first time where he's shown a bit of emotion over someone else. You know, when. When she mentions Maryatt and he's like, oh, no, really, not Maryatt. You know, he's it.

Because I think this is the guy that saved him and did his. The work on him. So there is a bit of an attachment there. So it's nice to see Travis, like you said.

And he probably wouldn't have done that a few episodes back where he's all full of himself and, you know, but I think at this point, yeah, he is a little bit broken down. He's a little bit more damaged and so the emotion comes out, which is really good to see.

So it is a scene of exposition, but it's a lovely scene, isn't it, between those two? A great scene.

Garry: 01:07:13

Yeah, very cool.

And in that clip that we played before we started doing the review in this episode, and straight away I said, are we starting to see a little bit of emotion come through from Travis? Because up to this point you could almost be forgiven for thinking that he's some kind of Android.

Adam: 01:07:31

Yeah.

Garry: 01:07:32

Some kind of robot, whatever. Because of his lack of empathy, emotion, all that stuff. And when she mentioned. Yeah, you're right. When she mentions the character of Mariach, he's.

He's taken aback just for a moment because he's got time for him. Of course, because he's worked on his injuries and stuff in the past. However, it doesn't take long for him to move past that.

He has a little moment, doesn't he?

Adam: 01:08:01

Yes, that's right.

Garry: 01:08:02

A little bit of reflection, a little bit of. Because I think he just. The last we heard about. The last we hear about that character is Travis saying he was a good man.

Adam: 01:08:10

Yeah, respected him.

Garry: 01:08:13

Yeah, exactly. And then they're off, you know, the next part of the conversation.

Adam: 01:08:17

But it had to be Maryatt or someone of his stature, I guess, because otherwise, you know, Ensor probably wouldn't have fallen for the plan because he's probably thinking, oh, if they, you know, they could put someone down there as a hostage, but someone they don't care about, they know, just a Federation trooper. So it has to be someone who's actually got all these qualifications that they believe the Federation wouldn't want to lose.

So it kind of has to be someone like Maryatt, doesn't it? Because I think Blake realized. I can't remember when we hear it, but there's talk of he's got all these qualifications and stuff, isn't there?

So he's obviously quite a well respected person within the Federation, but sadly he's become a victim of Sir Valence. Dastardly plan.

Garry: 01:08:58

Exactly. Yeah. He's. He's aware of it.

And as a tiny little offshoot and something that will probably, I'm guessing, will probably come to fruition in the next episode is Blake finds that he's got super high security clearance within the Federation. He's got a security guard.

Adam: 01:09:16

Yeah.

Garry: 01:09:17

That they find on. On Maryatt. So I'm guessing that's going to help them. It might do. It might just be a little plot device.

It's throwaway, I'm not sure, but seems like quite an important security card, that one. So we'll see what happens. Again, you're biting your lip.

Adam: 01:09:31

I know you I am, actually. Yeah. Because I'm thinking. Yeah, I think. Yeah. I'm not saying anything.

Garry: 01:09:35

Yeah. And, yeah, so wonderful scenes between Steven Greif and. And Jacqueline Pierce. Very, very cool chemistry. She's almost. The way she just glides around.

Adam: 01:09:47

I know.

Garry: 01:09:47

You know, and so confident and.

Adam: 01:09:50

Yeah.

Garry: 01:09:51

Not taking any business, even when she's on the phone. On the phone, you know, the communicator, whatever. Like, you know, the conference is waiting sort of thing.

She's like, no, you know, I'll be there when I'm ready.

Adam: 01:10:01

Yeah, exactly.

Garry: 01:10:02

Yeah. Just not taking any nonsense. Yeah. So good. So, overall. Yeah. And let's talk about the performance, actually, from. From Ensor. So Tony Kanter, he was.

We know him from late. Many later years. I think he turned up in either EastEnders or Corrie, one of the two.

Adam: 01:10:20

I think it was EastEnders.

Garry: 01:10:21

Yeah, something like that. That's probably where most people will know his. His name from in sort of recent years, but kind of hamming it up a little bit, I guess.

It's difficult when your character is written with just like, you know, make some dying sounds or the directors, like, you know, you're at the edge of. Of death, basically, and you're in a lot of pain and stuff, so that you need to give the impression audibly, as very.

As well as visually to the viewer that you're. You're dying anytime soon sort of thing, and your injuries are bad. But I do feel like he's. He's wheezing and moaning and all that stuff quite a lot.

And although I did. I did buy into his desperation, though. That's one thing I will say. He did bring that across on screen very clearly when he's got Cali captured.

Adam: 01:11:14

Yeah.

Garry: 01:11:15

With the. With the. The gun and. And Blake is kind of powerless for a while.

He is basically, like you said earlier, he's basically saying, look, I don't want to do this. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a. You know, this is not my character. I'm not the murderer, but I'm desperate, you know, we have to do this.

So I get the desperation. His character, he played that very well. But, yeah, not a bad performance from Tony Gaunta, Just. Yeah. Bit theatrical.

Adam: 01:11:42

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. Yeah. He's definitely better in the scenes where he's holding Callie hostage, you know, when he's.

Like you said, when he's delivering the lines about being desperate to save his dad and stuff. I think he's good in those scenes, but. Yeah, I know what you mean. The other Bits. The stuff in the spaceship and, and when he's ill. Yeah.

Maybe just a tad ott. Talking of that spaceship, mate, isn't that a nice opening shot of that? I think that might be the same spaceship we saw in a previous episode.

I'm not sure if it's the same, but, you know, we get that really nice shot of the full. They've built the full spaceship for them to sit in and it's sort of gliding through space and I thought that's pretty nice for the time.

That looks good. And some lovely model shots of Liberator as well in this episode. Some lovely shots, actually. Yes.

Yeah, so, yeah, so, but yeah, in terms of his performance. Yeah, it's, it's, it's decent. It does, it does the job.

Garry: 01:12:35

It does, yeah. I think it's a similar model to what we saw in Time Squad.

Adam: 01:12:39

That's it. Yeah, I think it is.

Garry: 01:12:40

Yeah, it's very. Yeah. And yeah, it's another one of those understated models for a ship as well.

I think as a, you know, being hired as a model maker and designer back in the day, you probably could have gone nuts with that stuff, made it very, very futuristic and sci fi looking and added all sorts to it. But the fact that they've gone very simple with some of these ships is actually very cool.

Things like the London and also, you know, sir, you know the space station where Server lands on.

Adam: 01:13:12

Oh, the big donut.

Garry: 01:13:13

The big donut. If you fast forward in time, dude, to some modern sci fi like some of the, you know, Star wars, the Phantom Menace.

Yeah, you know, you've got that thing with the Trade Federation and they've got like a blockade around the planet. A lot of those look very, very similar.

So you could see that over time that designers and so on, working in science fiction and so on, have taken little bits of inspiration from older school sci fi like this.

Adam: 01:13:44

Yeah, definitely.

Garry: 01:13:45

It's very, very cool.

So, yeah, the model work, although it might seem on the surface, you know, fairly basic and quite rudimentary, it's actually, it's very much purposely designed that way and it looks really cool.

One of the things that you and I spoke about when we first got into doing Blake's 7 and you told me over the years was like, mate, you're either going to crack up laughing at some of the models or you're gonna love them. And so far I love them. I think they're just designed in such.

You can tell obviously due to the budget etc, that, you know, there's a bit of blue Peterness to them in a small way, but just the charm that. That just, you know, screams from the screen with these things is. Yeah, just amazing.

Adam: 01:14:28

Yeah. I just love the fact that they've built that one proper full size spaceship for them to sit in at the start.

You know, when it's coming, gliding towards you in the very first shot. It just looks great.

Garry: 01:14:38

It does, dude. It's very cool. Right, there was one more character. We've spoken about, everybody. So just lastly then, poor Jenna. Oh, yeah, Sally Novette as.

Once again, we're flip flopping between these crew members. One episode having plenty to do, the next one being sidelined.

And actually, to be honest with you, Dave Jackson as Gan, although he's in it more, he doesn't really say a lot.

Adam: 01:15:07

Not really.

Garry: 01:15:08

He's got a few lines, hasn't he? Here and there.

Adam: 01:15:11

Not much. Yeah, yeah.

Garry: 01:15:12

But overall, a couple of people get sidelined a little bit. Cali, unfortunately as well.

Adam: 01:15:17

Jane Chapel used to wear the funky goggles, the. The jazz goggles. You know, that little Walkman.

Garry: 01:15:25

Yep.

Adam: 01:15:26

They've got to get as much use out of that prop.

Maybe it costs a lot of money because it's been in a few episodes now and they just always start by zooming away from them wearing it and then they sort of take it off. So, yeah, do love that Jazz wartman, whatever is.

Garry: 01:15:40

Yeah, that's great. Love little quirky things like that. Yeah, it's almost a. It's almost an homage to the security guy in the way back.

Adam: 01:15:53

Oh, yeah, because he's. Yeah, he's wearing them, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, very cool. But you're right, mate, those.

All three of those characters, sadly, that once again they fall victim to not getting so much to do. You know, poor old Jenna gets captured and gets to be in the tent. But yeah, all three of them really suffer a bit in this episode.

Garry: 01:16:15

A little bit. Yeah. And I must laugh at Gan's line, though. You mentioned it earlier, the limit. Yeah.

You know when you're out with somebody and you're like, oh, let's go and walk. We're in London, let's go walk over to Forbidden Planet. It's like, oh, not with my dodgy knee, I'll get an Uber or something.

It's almost that sort of thing. Well, I, I'll get stuck in, lads, but remember the limiter.

Adam: 01:16:38

You're absolutely right. Yeah. Gonna say that down the pub next time we're down there. Another pine. Oh, no, not with my limiter.

Garry: 01:16:44

Not with the limit. Oh, mate, yeah. So Sally Nevitte, though, she. She. The small screen time. She does. Of course. It's great. One thing I will say and we'll speak.

We'll speak about this more in our special wrap up bonus episode is there is. All of these characters within Blake's crew are definitely consistent. You have to give them that.

Adam: 01:17:09

Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah. Even if they don't get much to do, they're always. They always have a presence on screen, don't they?

Garry: 01:17:14

Yes.

Adam: 01:17:15

No matter what. Yeah, yeah.

Garry: 01:17:18

And we mentioned this again a lot, but Dudley Simpson stuff was really cool in this one.

Adam: 01:17:26

Nice music from Dudley this week again. Yep, absolutely.

Garry: 01:17:30

Yeah. Perfect bit of music for when Servalan and Travis are having a chat about Orac. Perfect bit of music in the background there where it's got.

I think it's just a cello or some strings or something on a synth perhaps, but. But just the way that it's got that forebodingness to it.

Adam: 01:17:51

Yes. Yeah.

Garry: 01:17:53

Do you know what I mean by that? It's got that.

Adam: 01:17:54

Yeah, it's.

Garry: 01:17:55

It's not. It's. I wouldn't say it's suspense, but it's got that kind of.

Yeah, something big is coming with whatever Orac is and the way that she's telling Travis about it all and stuff like that, so.

Adam: 01:18:06

And also, you know, with the Cavemen, there's. I said I don't know what instrument is. This is like this sort of echo drum, drum thing. I don't know how.

I don't know what that instrument is, but I think it's a drum. But yeah, it's a nice. Because it just absolutely fits those cavemen characters somehow that. I don't know, I can't do the sound.

But you'll know the bit I mean, right?

Garry: 01:18:25

Exactly, mate.

Adam: 01:18:26

Yeah.

Garry: 01:18:26

And exactly what you mean. Yeah, it's really cool. And yeah, so just his. His music again.

Just because I imagine when you've filmed something and you've got the actors doing their thing and you're editing the episode together and it's all good. You're obviously only ever at 90% at that point.

So Dudley's music just gives you that extra 10% just to finish it off and make it exactly the feeling that you want from that scene, which was something big's coming and there's this foreboding sense of. Is Servalanand about to find the thing that's gonna give the federation the edge or is Blake gonna get there? It's so cool.

Adam: 01:19:05

Yeah, yeah.

Garry: 01:19:07

Anything else on your notes, dude, before we get to scores?

Adam: 01:19:11

No, just teleport bracelet watch. I mentioned a few episodes back that they.

Garry: 01:19:15

Oh, you did?

Adam: 01:19:16

Yeah. There was only six left. I couldn't help but notice they are. They are gradually going down in numbers.

We've just about got enough left for all the crew, so. Yeah, but no, apart from that, mate, I haven't got anything else on my notes, I don't think.

Garry: 01:19:31

Yeah, no, I picked up on that.

I didn't add it to my notes, but I remember when I watched it, I was like, yeah, Adam did say that as the series goes on, the number of bracelets in that rack just go down.

Adam: 01:19:42

It did look a little bit empty, didn't it, already? Thank goodness they get into the end of series one, they might be able to top it up by series two.

Garry: 01:19:50

Yeah, that's cool, man. Alrighty, Scores on the doors. I think it's me to go first. I'm gonna give this bud a six out of ten.

Adam: 01:19:59

A six out of ten. Okay.

Garry: 01:20:01

Yeah, I think it's a slightly better watch than just an average middle of the road sort of thing. It's an. It's an enjoyable watch for the most part.

The reason I'm not scoring it any higher than that is because I do genuinely feel like at this point in the series that although it's in some parts of the episode, it does give you that call. Oh, next week or next episode is going to be awesome. There's something big coming and there's a nice little ramp up.

I do feel like, narratively, we've seen a lot of these beats before in previous episodes. It feels like we've run out of gas just a little bit at this point. So it's.

But I do most of this score, to be honest with you, is Paul Darrow, Michael Keating and Steven Greif and Jacqueline Pierce. Those performances for me will stand out very, very good. So a six for me, bud. What about you?

Adam: 01:20:52

Yeah, well, I wrote down a seven as a score for this one, which might be being a little bit generous, but I, I. Because as I said, I.

If you were to ask me to describe this episode, there isn't, you know, I can't really think much about it, but I, I just enjoyed it. I was, as I said, when I put it in, even. Even putting the disc in, I was like, why is that? Which one is Deliverance?

Yeah, there's normally something that springs to mind with each episode, and I just couldn't think what even went on in this story, to be honest. So I was surprised how much I got into this, and I appreciate it, is a bit of a prequel to Orac, but I just really enjoyed it, mate.

I loved all the stuff with Lord Avon and, and I thought the cast were great, as usual and like you said, the scenes of Travis, so I'm. It's probably more of a 6.5, but I wrote 7 and I enjoyed it, so I'll stick with a 7.

Garry: 01:21:37

Are you sticking with it?

Adam: 01:21:38

I will because that's what I wrote. I'm going to stick to my guns this week. I enjoyed this one.

Garry: 01:21:43

Nice. Okay, so a six from me, a seven from him and next week, bud. It's obvious. But what are we watching and reviewing next week?

Adam: 01:21:52

Yeah, can you believe this, mate? We're on to the last episode already. It feels like we just began.

Feels like we just stepped aboard the London, but we're already here, the final episode and it's called Orack.

Garry: 01:22:05

So itching to watch this one, mate.

Adam: 01:22:10

That's jumping ahead to season D. People will be liking that little reference. Bring me. All right. I can't. I just can't say the word. Alright without thinking that.

Garry: 01:22:20

So, yeah, we will be on to the. The finale of series A next week with our review of Orak. And on that note, let's wrap it there, bud, for episode 12.

Alright, that was episode 12 of Federation Strike. Thank you very much for listening along as we've gone through series A and guttingly, we're almost at the end of this series. It's been.

I don't want to write it off too soon, but I've loved it so much and it's sad to see it end. And I know you obviously love it for the, I don't know, 42nd time you've watched it or something.

Adam: 01:23:06

Probably.

Garry: 01:23:08

Yeah. So you, I can tell as we reviewed it that your, your enthusiasm and love for the show hasn't waned at all.

Adam: 01:23:14

Not at all over the years.

Garry: 01:23:16

No. So that's great. So thank you very much for listening thus far and for checking out Federation Strike.

If you're new to the podcast, then thank you so much for, for giving us a shot and hearing our views on this amazing TV show. Make sure you go back to the beginning and like a lot of people have done actually, who have told us all on the socials that they've. They've.

They're doing the watch along with us and hearing our thoughts and so on. So that's incredible.

So make sure you go back and listen to episode one and our review of the way back and the people that have listened thus far since beginning. Very, very cool to have you with us as always, and thank you so much for your time.

It's, it's been great to talk through a show that I didn't expect to fall in love with, but have done.

And I think that's from the amazing, all the, all the complimentary stuff that Adam has said about it over the years that I've not paid too much attention to. I've just said, okay, Adam loves it. You know, you go for it, Adam, you carry on your love of Blake's 7 and that's all good.

But now that I'm into it, it's just been amazing. And next week, as Adam said, we're on to the finale. So get that watched, get your DVD out your Blu Ray set or fire it up on itvx.

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